where is greenpeace, natural resources defense council, so-called environmental groups? why aren't they standing up for the small landowners? they are really getting a raw deal. wind energy companies are making handsome profits but individual landowners are really getting the short end of the stick. gerri: i wouldn't be happy if one of those was set up next to me. >> certainly would not. gerri: let me talk about the energy strategy council. >> right. gerri: they're suggesting starting a energy strategy council. >> sure. gerri: that would come up with a policy, soup-to-nuts, every federal agency in the world gets involved. possible? >> well, sure it is possible. i mean, this is the federal government after all. but, what bothers me is, this idea we'll have quadrennial review, four year plan just like the pentagon. i don't know that is the best model to work on. gerri: i have to ask you about bp today. >> sure. gerri: there is big news coming from bp. federal government says you are disqualified from winning new contracts. here's bp's statement. suspension that is, due to